Reality Thoughts

In the experience we call Reality, what really comes first:

• what’s experienced physically, or
• the mental perception of the physical experience

For that matter, if perception is NOT registered mentally in thought, has anything been experienced? I say No!  Certainly not for subject supposed to be having the experience.

Thinking Objectively:

One might say: What of the person unknowingly exposed to radiation? Doesn’t that person experience the radiation without perceiving it?

However, I would  beg to ask: if the subject person never perceives any thought of an exposure nor senses any change registered mentally, has he actually experienced anything?

Objectively, you might think: he was exposed to radiation and his body experienced damage.

So, lets assume next the exposed dies and an autopsy reveals radiation damage to a vital organ. Who is the perceiver of the radiation now? Who is the one that experiences the exposure of radiation? I would say, the doctor performing the autopsy is the only one of the two that experienced the reality of a radiation caused death.

Again, someone will insist: in reality, the exposed would have continued to live longer had his liver NOT been so severely damaged. Death was experienced,. Reality is: the exposed subject died of radiation exposure!

But, to the subject that died unknowing of its cause, he only knows he died. His reality is: I died, not that I died of radiation exposure.

But talking objectively, you’d be right in saying it makes no difference. Objectively, the victims knowledge or not makes NO difference. The body of the exposed is dead. His body experienced death. To the collector of facts, reality is he died and the more perfect view of reality is: the victim died from exposure to radiation. That’s thinking objectively.

However, subjectively, the subject person that doesn’t recognize or perceive a realization that his physical death was caused by radiation, does NOT have a reality of participating an experience of death by radiation. That’s thinking subjectively .

Which Reality matters?

So maybe we need to start over with our question above.

Which reality, Objective or Subjective really comes first:

• Objects perceived in reality, or
• The subjective reality of a reality perceiver

Does reality really exist without a being to perceive it? I believe NOT. Certainly one can NOT consider a reality as a “known reality” if there is NOT a knower somewhere.

While I can not imagine a reality unknown to anyone; such as a reality that no conscious being knows of.   On the other hand, I heartily agree and believe there are many realities unknown to you and I and others.

If you believe you exist independant of your objective physical body and that subjective thought preceeds objective reality, as I do, then
Which Subjective reality, really comes first

• the thought that we’re experiencing something physically, or
• the thought that what we’re experiencing is real, , or maybe
• the thought that we belief that what we’re experiencing is really physical

Or could it be that prior to any of those we had to have expectation? What comes first? What really comes first:

• the thought of what we experience, or
• the thought of what we expect to experience, or
• that such a thought is possible of reality

Is it possible to have an expectation without first a belief that its possibility is reality?

To me, I think it is obvious that these all represent decisions that need to be decided. So, what really comes first:

• the decision that our reality allows for our expectation to be real, and
• the decision that what we expect to experience is true of reality

Even more, most would recognize, desires or fears are involved in expectation … maybe desire or fear come before we have reality? What really comes first is:

• the decision that the desire of what we want to experience is real, or
  the decision that the fear of what we don’t want to experience is real.

However, neither fear or desire exist independent of valuation or a belief that something has value that is being affected or expected. What really comes first:

• the decision that we perceive value for one alternative over another
• and the decision that the options we are perceiving are really possible

How do we turn the subjective thoughts of what we desire and value into beliefs of expectancy in reality? …

Maybe these are all the wrong questions:

Or, for that matter, are there any thoughts that aren’t actually real to begin with?

Are their any thoughts of value we desire that are NOT already real subjectively and just waiting for our realizations that they exist objectively?

But then, what is realization anyway but a decision that we recognize something as real?

Realization Exercise

Have we ever had a thought about something we knew nothing about, something about which we didn’t already know something?

What thoughts would you like to ask the “All knowing”?

As you think about these questions, watch to see if you don’t notice receiving answers almost immediately? I believe you’ll find …. as the first thought occurs, it brings the second which in turn brings the third … for as long as you want to play this game, different thoughts keep flowing. Are these the answers from “all knowing”? Where do they come from?

I speculate (… why  don’t we just say I believe):

• Thought chains occur to all of us.
• Problem is, We tend to think little of such chains because they seem to quickly overwhelm us
• We prefer to decide in advance that such are “Speculation” and NOT real or true
• I suspect, I speculate … oh hell, why not we eat the whole enchilada and decide it now!,… I believe: if we were to attempt to know ALL there is about any ONE thing, the chain of aspects and variations for contemplation would be infinite.
• Knowing we have limited capacity (actually, that’s a limiting belief not just a suspicion; notice I didn’t hedge by saying: suspecting we have limited capacity) , could belief in such a limit be the reason or explain why and maybe how we created a single line of thinking, a time-space construct for viewing reality. Certainly with such limits, we are able to focus on less of “all that is” and look only at those thoughts we deem valuable enough to warrant objectification by our giving focus and attention to the action of realization.
• Could desire for expectant limitations explain why we have an Ego that insists the “self” exists seperate from it’s experiences yet can NOT define itself in any manner except in regards to what it has experienced or by describing how it views it’s experienced reality?
• The ego keeps a limited focus so we don’t get lost in the infinite directions the mind could otherwise wander ( or should I have said, explore)?
• Thank God, we have an Ego able to discard and reduce the details to a manageable domain by deciding what “is” and what “is not” reality; not really worthy of experience and examination.
• Thank god, we have it to decide what is valuable; to  decide what to give our attention, and then the rest just appears as if our mere asking were an omnipotent command.
• Have or can you realize that?

 

• And if you say “yes”, can I be so bold as to ask:
  Was Aladin really the first to find the lamp upon which every wish could become reality?