{"id":638,"date":"2012-03-24T12:11:12","date_gmt":"2012-03-24T16:11:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/?p=638"},"modified":"2012-03-29T23:14:16","modified_gmt":"2012-03-30T03:14:16","slug":"what-would-you-like-to-ask-the-all-knowing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/?p=638","title":{"rendered":"What would you like to ask the &#8220;All Knowing&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Reality Thoughts<\/h2>\n<p>In the experience we call <strong><em>Reality<\/em><\/strong>, what really comes first:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>what&#8217;s experienced physically, or<\/li>\n<li>the mental perception of the physical experience<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>For that matter, if perception is NOT\u00a0registered mentally in thought, has anything been experienced? I say No!\u00a0 Certainly not for subject supposed to be having the experience.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thinking Objectively:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One might say: What of the person unknowingly exposed to radiation? Doesn&#8217;t that person experience the radiation without\u00a0perceiving it?<\/p>\n<p>However, I would \u00a0beg to ask: if the subject person never perceives any thought of an exposure nor senses any\u00a0change registered mentally, has he actually experienced anything?<\/p>\n<p>Objectively, you might think: he was exposed to radiation and his body experienced damage.<\/p>\n<p>So, lets assume next the exposed dies and an autopsy reveals radiation damage to a vital organ. Who is the perceiver of the radiation now? Who is the one that experiences the exposure of radiation? I would say, the doctor performing the autopsy is the only one of the two that experienced the reality of a radiation caused death.<\/p>\n<p>Again, someone will insist: in reality, the exposed would have continued to live longer had his liver NOT been so severely damaged. Death was experienced,. Reality is: the exposed subject died of radiation exposure!<\/p>\n<p>But, to the subject that died unknowing of its cause, he only knows he died. His reality is: I died, not that I died of radiation exposure.<\/p>\n<p>But talking objectively, you&#8217;d be right in saying it makes no difference. Objectively, the victims knowledge or not makes NO difference. The <em>body<\/em> of the exposed is dead. His <strong>body experienced death<\/strong>. To the collector of facts, reality is he died and the more perfect view of reality is: the victim died from exposure to radiation. That&#8217;s thinking objectively.<\/p>\n<p>However, subjectively, the subject person that doesn&#8217;t recognize or perceive a realization that his physical death was caused by radiation, does NOT have a reality of participating an experience of\u00a0<em>death by radiation<\/em>. That&#8217;s thinking subjectively .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Which Reality matters?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So maybe we need to start over with our question above.<\/p>\n<p>Which reality, Objective or Subjective really comes first:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Objects perceived in reality, or<\/li>\n<li>The subjective reality of a reality perceiver<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Does reality really exist without a being to perceive it? I believe NOT. Certainly one can NOT consider a reality as a &#8220;known reality&#8221; if there is NOT a knower somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>While I can not imagine a reality unknown to anyone; such as a\u00a0reality that no conscious being knows of.\u00a0\u00a0 On the other hand, I heartily agree and believe there are many realities unknown to you and I and others.<\/p>\n<p>If you believe you exist independant of your objective physical body and that subjective thought preceeds objective reality, as I do, then<br \/>\nWhich Subjective reality, really comes first<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the thought that we&#8217;re experiencing something physically, or<\/li>\n<li>the thought that what we&#8217;re experiencing is real, , or maybe<\/li>\n<li>the thought that we belief that what we&#8217;re experiencing is really physical<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Or could it be that prior to any of those we had to have expectation? What comes first? What really comes first:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the thought of what we experience, or<\/li>\n<li>the thought of what we expect to experience, or<\/li>\n<li>that such a thought is possible of reality<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Is it possible to have an expectation without first a belief that its possibility is reality?<\/p>\n<p>To me, I think it is obvious that these all represent decisions that need to be decided. So, what really comes first:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the decision that our reality allows for our expectation to be real, and<\/li>\n<li>the decision that what we expect to experience is true of reality<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Even more, most would recognize,\u00a0desires or fears are involved in expectation &#8230; maybe desire or fear come before we have reality? What really comes first is:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the decision that the <em>desire<\/em> of what we want to experience is\u00a0real, or<br \/>\nthe decision that the <em>fear<\/em> of what we don&#8217;t want to experience is real.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>However, <em>neither fear or desire exist independent of valuation<\/em> or a belief that <em>something has value<\/em> that is being affected or expected. What really comes first:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>the decision that we <em>perceive value<\/em> for one alternative over another<\/li>\n<li>and the decision that <em>the options we are perceiving are really possible<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>How do we turn the subjective thoughts of what we desire and value\u00a0into beliefs of expectancy in reality? &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maybe these are all the wrong questions: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Or,\u00a0for that matter, are there any thoughts that aren&#8217;t actually real to begin with?<\/p>\n<p>Are their any thoughts of value we desire that are NOT already real subjectively and<em> just waiting for our realizations<\/em> that they exist objectively?<\/p>\n<p>But then, what is realization anyway but a decision that we recognize something as real?<\/p>\n<h2>Realization Exercise<\/h2>\n<p>Have we ever had a thought about something we knew nothing\u00a0about, something about which we didn&#8217;t already know something?<\/p>\n<p>What thoughts would you like to ask the &#8220;All knowing&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>As you think about these questions, watch to see if you don&#8217;t notice receiving answers almost immediately? I believe you&#8217;ll find &#8230;. as the first thought occurs, it brings the second which in turn brings the third &#8230; for as long as you want to play this game, different thoughts keep flowing. Are these the answers from &#8220;all knowing&#8221;? Where do they come from?<\/p>\n<p>I speculate (&#8230; why\u00a0 don&#8217;t we just say I believe):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Thought chains occur to all of us.<\/li>\n<li>Problem is, We tend to think little of such chains because they seem to quickly overwhelm us<\/li>\n<li>We prefer to decide in advance that such are &#8220;Speculation&#8221; and NOT real or true<\/li>\n<li>I suspect, I speculate &#8230; oh hell, why not we eat the whole enchilada and decide it now!,&#8230; I believe: if we were to attempt to know ALL there is about any ONE thing, the chain of aspects and variations for contemplation would be infinite.<\/li>\n<li>Knowing\u00a0we\u00a0have limited capacity (actually, that&#8217;s\u00a0a limiting belief not just a suspicion; notice I didn&#8217;t hedge by saying: suspecting we have limited capacity)\u00a0, could belief in such a limit be the reason or explain why and maybe how we created a single line of thinking, a time-space construct for viewing reality. Certainly with such limits, we are able to focus on\u00a0less of\u00a0&#8220;all that is&#8221;\u00a0and\u00a0look only at those thoughts we deem valuable enough to warrant objectification by our giving focus and attention to the action of realization.<\/li>\n<li>Could desire for expectant limitations explain why we have an Ego that insists the &#8220;self&#8221; exists seperate from it&#8217;s experiences yet can NOT define itself in any manner except in regards to what it has experienced or by describing how it views it&#8217;s experienced reality?<\/li>\n<li>The ego keeps a limited focus so\u00a0we don&#8217;t get lost in the infinite directions the mind could otherwise wander ( or should I have said, explore)?<\/li>\n<li>Thank God, we have an Ego able to discard and reduce the details to a manageable domain by deciding what &#8220;is&#8221; and what &#8220;is not&#8221; reality; not really worthy of experience and examination.<\/li>\n<li>Thank god, we have it to decide what is valuable; to\u00a0\u00a0decide what to give our attention, and then the rest just appears as if our mere asking were an omnipotent\u00a0command.<\/li>\n<li>Have or can you realize that?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>And if you say &#8220;yes&#8221;, can I be so bold as to ask:<br \/>\nWas Aladin really\u00a0the first to find the lamp upon which every wish could become reality?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reality Thoughts In the experience we call Reality, what really comes first: what&#8217;s experienced physically, or the mental perception of the physical experience For that matter, if perception is NOT\u00a0registered mentally in thought, has anything been experienced? I say No!\u00a0 Certainly not for subject supposed to be having the experience. Thinking Objectively: One might say: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-638","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/638","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=638"}],"version-history":[{"count":19,"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/638\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":698,"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/638\/revisions\/698"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=638"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=638"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/believeit.us\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=638"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}